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#1 kurinji

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Posted 23 Apr 2011 - 22:23

All trainees for the ST4 interview check this out.Crucial it is.

http://www.rcpsych.a...t/st4entry.aspx

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Posted 23 Apr 2011 - 23:13

Thanks for this. yet another bad example of handling recruitment at the college level. This means that anyone who can speak better and prepares the questions gets through.

Don't get me wrong, speaking well at interviews is important but there are other aspects that can be missed only by overshadowing powerful speakers.
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#3 ruthless

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Posted 24 Apr 2011 - 01:15

Hmm interesting!!!!

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Posted 24 Apr 2011 - 13:05

I think its a wonderful idea, enough time to prepare decent answers and its equal opportunity for all.
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Posted 24 Apr 2011 - 17:48

Will they review the portfolio on line? What do they mean by no paper allowed?
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Posted 24 Apr 2011 - 21:01

Thanks Kurinji!

Will they review the portfolio on line? What do they mean by no paper allowed?
Thanks

No they will review the paper portfolio. They just say that you are not supposed to do any presentations (paper or electronic). You are just expected to pick bits and pieces from your paper portfolio (which you will bring to the interview of course) and talk about them e.g. pick an audit from your portfolio and talk about it, pick a mini-PAT and talk about it, pick a course certificate and talk about it etc.
At least that's what I understood.
Any other opinions?

Edited by arkap, 24 Apr 2011 - 21:02.


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Posted 24 Apr 2011 - 21:08

Many thanks arkap! Very helpful as it is kind of confusing. Thanks for your quick response

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Posted 25 Apr 2011 - 00:34

Thanks Arkap..wouldnt have seen it had you not pointed it out.

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Posted 25 Apr 2011 - 13:16

Thanks for this. yet another bad example of handling recruitment at the college level. This means that anyone who can speak better and prepares the questions gets through.

Don't get me wrong, speaking well at interviews is important but there are other aspects that can be missed only by overshadowing powerful speakers.

i think that it is going to dreadful mtas days- where there are clear complains of people having doctored answers through consultants and through paid courses-this may increase the nepotism as well which is rife in uk with the panel stating that they found x persons answers better than y and even approving of some pathetic portfolios as fantabulous- we are seeing a very bad generation of mrcpsych who are probably poorer than their predecessors created by casc already- now this!- probably we may need to put pressure on our board to do away with uk psych degrees enbloc!

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Posted 25 Apr 2011 - 13:30

rdgupta never ceases to amaze people in this forum with his ultra-biased views to say the least..

looks like the grass is definitely greener in OZ for you and its a pity that pathetic people in the uk did not have your 'foresight and brilliant planning' at the time of MTAS to take the decisions that you took. What a clever person you are and people could do more with your pearls of wisdom from time to time in this cafe!

Why dont you lobby to the beacon of psychiatry (read the OZZZ board) about banning these inferior uk grads with substandard mrcpsych qualifications?

So, when did you climb on to the high pedestal that you are now comfortably looking down on the uk system with so much concern?

Give us a break mate and have a can of Fosters!

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Posted 25 Apr 2011 - 13:34

I think Cage's and rdgupta's concerns about the interviews are reasonable.
I am not sure though, are we expected to prepare completely independently for the interviews or are we allowed to ask ST4-6 and Consultants for the answers to the questions?

For example, we were expected to prepare our applications all by ourselves without any external help, does the same apply to the interviews?
Are we only allowed to ask SpRs/Consultants who are not directly involved in the recruitment process? Posted Image

Edited by austinpowers, 25 Apr 2011 - 13:36.


#12 rdgupta

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Posted 25 Apr 2011 - 13:51

rdgupta never ceases to amaze people in this forum with his ultra-biased views to say the least..

looks like the grass is definitely greener in OZ for you and its a pity that pathetic people in the uk did not have your 'foresight and brilliant planning' at the time of MTAS to take the decisions that you took. What a clever person you are and people could do more with your pearls of wisdom from time to time in this cafe!

Why dont you lobby to the beacon of psychiatry (read the OZZZ board) about banning these inferior uk grads with substandard mrcpsych qualifications?

So, when did you climb on to the high pedestal that you are now comfortably looking down on the uk system with so much concern?

Give us a break mate and have a can of Fosters!

B) usually i wouldnt respond to such posts but there one person who is probably an st-4 candidate and concerned which shows similiar worries as i have got!
whether grass is greener or not we will leave it for discussion some other day !:)
tbh it is amazing to see even cct applicants for AON Posts in oz which probably explains situation on uk- but alas somebody should get insight and being an observer in few such panels i do not need to say more of the insight i got- the candidates were not even asked a single system specific issues and one could see their performance- we do conduct observed interviews for all candidates be it exemptions or training- and to tell you the truth trainees have better understanding and grasp and can synthesise cases better than some of these candidates-
when it i reach this pedestal- oh dont bother u will get upset!:D








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Posted 25 Apr 2011 - 13:55

of forgot 'ozz board' has already debarred mrcpsych from gaining exemption status from march 31 2009 -read the previous post you shall understand- what it means is training +exams+advanced training
my worry is what would happen if they start seeing cct in this state :rolleyes:

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Posted 25 Apr 2011 - 14:34

The Fox and the Grapes by Aesop

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Posted 25 Apr 2011 - 14:39

The Fox and the Grapes by Aesop

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best wishes for what you are saying turning out to be true- and we can get cesr equivalent easily if have franzcp but wondering if ever was worth it- best is to speak to other people who are like minded and see if they share your concern- cheers for now

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Posted 25 Apr 2011 - 15:08


Thanks for this. yet another bad example of handling recruitment at the college level. This means that anyone who can speak better and prepares the questions gets through.

Don't get me wrong, speaking well at interviews is important but there are other aspects that can be missed only by overshadowing powerful speakers.

i think that it is going to dreadful mtas days- where there are clear complains of people having doctored answers through consultants and through paid courses-this may increase the nepotism as well which is rife in uk with the panel stating that they found x persons answers better than y and even approving of some pathetic portfolios as fantabulous- we are seeing a very bad generation of mrcpsych who are probably poorer than their predecessors created by casc already- now this!- probably we may need to put pressure on our board to do away with uk psych degrees enbloc!


Oh here we go again

Some people will go out of their way to try to bash MRCPsych , wonder why??. It is becoming comical ( remember Comical Ali - some people here are starting to remind me of him), oz and aus are this and that , the training is superior da da da da da . RIGHT !!!!!!

This thread is about ST4 Interviews , pleAse buzz off if your agenda is about something else.

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Posted 25 Apr 2011 - 19:29

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#18 rdgupta

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Posted 26 Apr 2011 - 04:59

let us examine the above posts and get some key words first
'comical'; 'fox and grapes';' mrcpsych bashing';buzz off if theme not relevant to the post
now we will hear a not so comical story:
i currently work as a specialist in an urban and suburban community psychiatry position in a major city in Australia;
we have registrar recruitments once a year and last year it was on 19/1/10 and people may have seen my posts then;
we have 12 posts of which we were able to fill 9 -so there was gap of three;
the busier patches were filled by the 9 registrars but still 3 patches remained unfilled which meant the consultants-staff specialist as they are known as had no reg. cover;so there was a recruitment crisis and i was given the job of liaising with the recruitment agency(i was not a specialist then and this agency got me in !) to see if there would be other keen people with mrcpsych from uk who would be keen to come down and work towards fellowship- hence a mutually benefitial relationship could be formed!- this was arranged by me as i had a reasonably good relationship with the agency;the interviews were organised and 3 'keen' people were recruited;finally with the paperworks they started working in the month of may last year- within 15 days one of the s/v specialist complained that he could not cope with one of the candidates-this was early days and we have a mid yr consultant r/v to see if there is any problem with the recruited registrars-complains about assessments from very reasonable specialist in comparatively lighter patches continued to brew; then we decided that we would swap them amongst the consultants and see if things change- and no surprises it did'nt- things came to a head in the december r/v meeting pre-Christmas when everyone was talking about these candidates it was one of my colleagues who is an ex-PGIand also a fellow (this man had actually s/v one of the candidates)and me who landed up defending these people;anyway then their notes etc. were examined either the assessment was incomplete with moth eaten histories or the complete synthesis of cases were wrong; then came up an AON post(specialist which are filled when you do not get enough fellows) where i had the oppurtunity to observe as i am one of the junior staffs and even if you are consultant/fellow you cannot do a constancy i/v viva without having observed or trained- they were on teleconferencing link from uk- 3 were i/v and one was selected and our fear is he may go down same route- there is going to be another mid semester r/v for these candidates and i have made up my mind to remain silent this time- tbh the commonest thing b/w them and me was mrcpsych ,one is from subcont where as others are uk passport holders- and they were supported by another person who has no connection with UKat all!- i do not know what their fate is going to be but the serivices is unlikely to continue recruiting registrars from uk- they were given what is known as senior registrars posn which means a basic of 95000$+ oncall a total amounting to 130-140000 $ plus we had to pay 3 m salary each to the recruting agency who helped us recruiting them-
now analysing where things went wrong and its relevance to the thread above-
the root cause analysis would be faulty recruitment based on perceived notion that mrcpsych is a good filter(at least for registrar) and the issue applies to the current national recruitment in uk where the questions are already out and can be doctored were easily by hints from colleagues, seniors and hence would be a very poor filter for candidates getting through- the second issue is even if poorer candidates get through what are the provisions to lift their standards substantially to they become market competetive?this is so that there is at least a quantum jump in standards b/w mrcpsych and cct- we have taken our contingency planning and have decided to recruit people from standard institutes viz AIIMS,PGI, NIMHANS ,CIP etc and i sincerely hope UK makes some plans as well
wishing happy easter and seasons greeting from OZ

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Posted 26 Apr 2011 - 14:03

Any thoughts about clinical scenarios and specialty specific questions. Should we discuss them or does every body want to play their cards close to their chest?

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Posted 26 Apr 2011 - 14:06

Ok I ll start. I think that in atleast two stations same things can be repeated with a slight twist. But this would require careful selection of things from portfolio that could tick all relevant boxes.
Secondly timing may be crucial particularly in questions where there are two components.




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