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Are Psychiatrists Boring?

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It pains me to say this but I'll bring it up anyway

I've been working in Psychiatry for many years now and have come across very few fellow psychiatrists that are interesting as people. Most tend to be very boring, humourless people with little to say that isn't work related. Indeed whenever I attempt to talk about non work related themes it becomes apparent that they have nothing to say and have little in the way of charisma.

When selecting psychiatry as a specialty I assumed that because of its more relaxed nature the people would be easy going and warm. What i discovered was cold, humourless people with no life outside of their jobs.

I believe that a good psychiatrist should be well rounded and personable and that patients respond better to these people

What do other people think? Maybe it's just me!

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I know where u are coming from FP.I never take work home. Once I am out of the office then my time is for my family, friends and myself. I don’t think I could ever be friends with anyone who had nothing to talk about apart from work. I love movies, music, politics and sports so there is always loads to talk about. Life is not just about work. Probably I am not that driven I guess. Never been overly ambitious so that might be one reason. I also know that life is too short and I deserve to enjoy things that I enjoy doing. Does being a doctor excite me? No not really. Pays my mortgage, bills and my kid goes to school. That is my responsibility as a father, husband ,brother and son. Post 5PM it is gupshup and fun time

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I don't think it is just psychiatrists- it is all of the medical profession. I have friends across most specialities and yes I agree that most doctors talk only about work, work and more work.

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May be people have different wavelengths and interests.

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haiiiii.....I dont ever want to fit into that ' UNCLE' type category.

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And how interesting do they rate you, one wonders.

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Don't take it personally pal. Like I said, maybe it's me but one thing I've noticed is how a lot of psychiatrists only talk about work related topics. To me this makes for a dull person.

This is only my opinion

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In my case I think they don't find me intellectually similar but hey ho lol

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Mind numbingly boring guys.

Look at this forum too - the number of actually interesting topics discussed.

Not just psychiatrists, talking to doctors makes me want to slash my wrists.

Some are definitely cool, but very very few and far between.

Home, tv and sports are 'lug' interests.

Somebody who's read a little bit, seen a bit, travelled a bit, played a little music, listened to music that was outside their comfort zone and grown from it, done something that 98% of their peers haven't done (not of course chess at national level or the like, but something more 'cool').

Its just a home, kids, tv, sleep runaround. Over and over and over again till they retire. Then its home, grandkids, tv, sleep.

No, I dont see it improving anytime soon.

Because there's no real impetus to be a more interesting person. Drones at work with the evidence based guideline/protocol following malarkey. And drones at home.

Nice people. Spectacularly nice people. But nice isnt interesting conversation on an evening out.

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Not at all. But seriously, the mind is so fascinating, how can it be boring? Or are you talking about issues such as T&Cs, job security, etc? That may be a sign of the times.

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One persons boring could be anothers thrill ride. Its unfair to say that just coz one person does not follow your path of optimal bliss, makes him missing out on FUN. I have chosen to be a family guy with a kid who loves going to the zoo, parks and not go paragliding or clubbing etc.The same would apply to the "I dont want to talk about anything else but work" group of people. If it thrills them then bravo. Hence we are all not the same. Thats why we find friends and partners that we are compatible with. even with friends and partners we dont have to have ditto similar interests.That would mean a clone of oneself.Different interests mean sharing experiences,learning and appreciating.

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Slarts having a rant. Like Peechoo said, to each his own. If you find someone boring, don't talk to them. Our if you have the streak of world change, then try to change them. Slighting others for not being like you is childlike.

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haiiiii.....I dont ever want to fit into that ' UNCLE' type category.

what do you mean ? you already ARE an uncle !!!! a handsome one though ;)

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Don't take it personally pal. Like I said, maybe it's me but one thing I've noticed is how a lot of psychiatrists only talk about work related topics. To me this makes for a dull person.

This is only my opinion

well you need to hang out with my friends then.. we very rarely talk about work, unless it is to express frustrations :)

other than that it is always about things that excite us - gadgets, games, gossip, girls, movies, sport, photography, outdoorsy stuff etc etc depending on whom i am talking to..

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maybe a better word than 'boring' would be one dimensional.

I do wish people would read a little bit more. watch some interesting documentaries / movies. do something different with their lives.

but thats other people, and my wishes for them. Which should really count for diddly squat.

But sometimes, my brain/heart aches for an interesting conversation with an interesting person.

(on another note, Interesting conversation is an art - and Sagir has that down to a T. He has a way of making the most mundane topics a fascinating interesting conversation.)

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What are you doing now slarti? Still working in psych?

I must say that the standard of the threads on these boards has declined significantly too.

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Ive kinda retired. Or at least having my 3-4 years of holiday. And aiming to generate a cashflow in these years to make it a permanent holiday.

Been in Sydney the past few months. Its awesome. Want to leave for SE Asia, or hit the UK summer and do US and Costa Rica - but finding it difficult to leave Sydney, as its such a beaut.

It is arseparalysingly expensive - twice as expensive as central london for pretty much everything - whether indoors or out. But the lifestyle, people, vibe makes for a brilliant holiday.

Im sharing rent with a medschool buddy, and having a pretty keerazy time out here.

Might work for a couple of months, but still feeling guilt issues about the agent of social control scene, and how much Im actually helping the patients. So still thinking about it. But maybe work for a couple-few months and decide either way what's to be done. Or maybe just holiday for the rest of my life.

Once I lost the crazy consumer culture - buying for the sake of buying. And keeping my needs simple. Not spending on anything other than rent, travel, food and drink. Money goes a long long way. Im spending around 2000 USD a month for expenses. And thats living in a brill house in a decent locality. Drinking every night (sigh). Going out 3-4 times a week meeting friends.

Gymming. On my way to a six pack. and 16 inch arms seem a couple or few weeks away. 15.5 now. Eating healthy. Cooking everyday. Meeting new and interesting people. Having 24x7 to myself, and the longest holiday yet of my life (8 months counting) is brilliant.

I'd highly highly recommend the long term travel thing. $2K usd can get you a pretty pretty decent lifestyle anywhere in the world. Half or a third that if you stick to parts of SE Asia.

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Slarti, i have gone well beyond 16 inches arm :lol: :lol:

Boring People....what about IT, Finances, Politicians, Police....why single out Psychiatrists.

I know Peecho, Sagir and Slarti are not Boring for sure, then whats wrong with being a Bore?

I know quite a few colourful psychiatrists, i think i am one :)

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Modern science is based on Newtonian physics and Darwinism.

Everything is separate and behaves according to fixed laws in a deterministic universe.

Competition breeds survival (of the fittest).

And we are coerced into fighting with each other, competing with each other, belittling each others accomplishments, and with the unfortunate side effect of never ever feeling that we are ever good enough.

I think there are people who are boring, and who are interesting. But to say Im better because Im more interesting/funny/rich is to buy into a paradigm of seeking validation for who I am based on who or what I am, and there being a spectrum. If Im less interesting, less rich then Im less validated/happy/fulfilled. And the person who is more interesting/funny/rich is happier/better than me.

And it's an important lesson I'm learning. That we will never ever be okay. Or perfect or good enough. Until we come to the realisation that we were always good enough. And that we are good enough as we are.

Okay, i get a little crazy here. But I hope all science will one day agree with me. We are good enough, because we are all good enough. We are all little pieces of that one big piece of everything, or 'All That Is' that is God.

We're all in this together. For better or for worse. But even in the midst of all that, there really is no better or worse. It all, like in a advaita philosophy, just IS. Just the way it IS.

We're all connected. We're all in this together. We're all more alike each other, than we are separate. Even down to our silliest insecurities. And we have to work together. Instead of kicking each other in the nuts every chance we get, back to the indoctrination we received in school that continues till today. Be number 1, there are only a finite number of number 1's. Be better in whichever way you can be, because that's the only way we've been taught to survive.

We're all in this together. And we're all okay. And Im okay. And you're okay. Already. No silly wait for an indeterminate future time, when we arbitrarily decide, yep, Im good enough. Im okay.

Hey, dont judge my waffle. Im on holiday and jobless. :)

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you should start an Ashram of some sort... give the Scientology and Kabbalah guys a run for their money :)

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I've been working in Psychiatry for many years now and have come across very few fellow psychiatrists that are interesting as people. Most tend to be very boring, humourless people with little to say that isn't work related. Indeed whenever I attempt to talk about non work related themes it becomes apparent that they have nothing to say and have little in the way of charisma.

I think that's just life. In the workplace most people talk mostly about work. They don't have anything else on their minds. In the workplace I think a lot of people can't switch off - they see and treat everyone as an employee and not as individuals with lives outside of work. However some of us have no problem talking about interesting things and getting interrupted occasionally by clinical work ^_^ .

Over the years I've socialised less and less with doctors. As life goes by, you meet people in other walks of life and you make new friends. You also break friendships as you get to know people better. I've no time for people who are envious, dishonest, materialistic, shallow, etc. I'm more interested in people with life stories, good humour, interesting opinions and, most importantly, people who are comfortable with their lives and don't feel the need to compete with me because, frankly, I'm not competing with anyone.

Dinner parties are a great way to meet interesting people. Good food, drinks and conversation into the early hours is a great way to spend an evening! Pity I can't do it every night.

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It pains me to say this but I'll bring it up anyway

I've been working in Psychiatry for many years now and have come across very few fellow psychiatrists that are interesting as people. Most tend to be very boring, humourless people with little to say that isn't work related. Indeed whenever I attempt to talk about non work related themes it becomes apparent that they have nothing to say and have little in the way of charisma.

When selecting psychiatry as a specialty I assumed that because of its more relaxed nature the people would be easy going and warm. What i discovered was cold, humourless people with no life outside of their jobs.

I believe that a good psychiatrist should be well rounded and personable and that patients respond better to these people

What do other people think? Maybe it's just me!

Never used my profession as the only way of meeting people---so don't know what people are like outside work as I don't really spend time trying to get to know them.I do go out on work do's and enjoy peoples company.

That said--I find all people interesting----one of the reasons I chose psychiatry.the people I actually dislike and avoid I can count on the fingers of one hand.However most of the other people are acquaintances. I do have several really good people I trust.

But as slart said

Bottomline:

Everybody's cool.

No, seriously. :)

Edited by Hawkeye

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At work colleagues for me, they are not really friends, often the friendship is all about ventilating each others frustration. You ask them out for a drink and it is no most time!

Outside work my friends are mostly non medics!!!!

The moment you meet a medic all they have to say is career and opportunities, work etc. Even recently I rang my previous consultant who is retired and what she had to talk again was work!

So probably it is not just psychiatrists but most doctors are boring.

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