silent_menace

On call cover- travelling

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I’m trying to find out about how much is expected of trainees in regard to travelling whilst on call.  How many hospitals do you cover and how much time do you spend travelling? Also, are we provided drivers? I know that in GP in beddoc this happens. Sorry if they seem silly questions, I don't know any trainees to ask such trivial questions to.

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I'm CT1 in Sussex, and my day job is in one town, but my oncalls are frequently at another hospital nearly an hours drive away. While there can also be asked to drive 15mins to a satellite unit.

So a 9pm to 9am shift actually means leaving home at 8pm and not returning till 10am.

We had a meeting about this and complained, management said they would look to see if things would be changed but they haven't :(

What is your situation Silent_M?

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I have just accepted a core training position in North central London. Currently I live outside Milton Keynes but will hopefully be moving down closer to London. I’m just trying to work out the logistics of it all. Thanks for your reply.

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Hi Silent_menace,i have also accepted CT1 post in Psychiatry from Aug 16,

Can you please share your contact so we can be in touch.

I have couple of queries aswell.

my emailadress is dr.sana.jawad@gmail.com

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Hi! I am based at North Central, typing as I'm doing my night-shift! It really depends where you are - North Central is divided into C&I and BEH (on the whole), I haven't worked at BEH yet so I can't advise.

With C&I there are 3 different out of hours rotas. UCLH, Whittington and Royal Free. Your day job could be based anywhere in Camden or Islington (or both like most people), the two main "hubs" are St. Pancras Hospital and Highgate Mental Health Centre and your out of hours rota could be elsewhere. So for example, someone on a ward based job at Highgate does their out of hours at Royal Free but on the whole HMHC jobs cover Whittington, St Panc covers UCLH and some St. Panc + tavistock + royal Free make up the Royal Free Rota.

Royal Free - you cover just the Royal Free Hospital, A&E and wards as Liaison I think.

UCLH - covers UCLH A&E, Wards as liaison and St. Pancras Hospital wards. During the day, walk or bus, during the night they do provide cabs.

HMHC - you cover HMHC, Whittington and Simmons House in Muswell Hill. They provide a cab to travel there but usually you have to pay and get it reimbursed. Between HMHC and Whittington, you walk across the road - security will escort you across.

 

The nights are 8.30pm-9am with handover at each end. Weekend days are 9am-9pm. There is also a working weekday rota where the bleep is held 9-1pm and 1pm-4.45pm and then a late shift which is 4.45pm-8.30pm.

On top of all of this, there is also a "fourth rota" so you are second on call and the "back up" should there be someone calling in sick at all 3 sites! So you may do a fourth on-call at a site you've never worked at before. In my 6 months I am on the 4th Rota 5 times. This means that you may or may not get called in if its a weekend, asked to stay late or go home and sleep and to come back at night, and usually you won't know until the morning of that day! (10am for nights and 4pm for lates). It is complete pot luck.

 

With BEH, they have Barnet (Edgeware community hospital), Enfield (Chase Farm) and Harringey (St. Ann's), I can find out details for you from my colleagues if needed. Just send me a message!

Also, on Tuesday afternoons, we have MRCPsych teaching at UCL which is great but it can mean that you travel to Gower St from Chase Farm and all the way back to Chase Farm if you're on lates! so that could be a bit annoying!

Otherwise, see you in August! and Good Luck!

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Love the name Dr Evil!

Your reply was very informative, I appreciate the time it must have taken to write all of that!. Thanks for your help, it has been really useful and will help guide what placements I will end up choosing.  It sounds like either way there is a lot of travelling! 

see you in August!

 

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