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Hi, 

I've tried to read through all the detailed info below but I think most people are talking about applying for residency programmes. 

 

Please can someone answer a quick question for me:

 

If I pass MRCPsych and complete CCT in General Adult Psych, then which exams do I need to do before I can apply for consultant posts in Canada? Would it just be RCPSC or would I also have to do the others?

 

Sorry if this has been answered before, any advice would be really appreciated

 

Sophie

 

Pretty sure you need to sit the qualifying exam to even apply (though you need to clarify rules for the province that you wish to apply for). Then you can apply and take exams after starting work.

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Hi Suki,

 

Thanks for all your invaluable advise. I'm an ST6 GA trainee and passed my MCCEE in April and due to sit the MCCQE1 in October. My question is, kindly advice on the best text books, question bank/on line resource to use for MCCQE1 prep. Most people say USMLE world CK. I've also come across LMCC exam prep. What do u think?

 

Thanx

 

Hi umbro909,

 

Congrats on passing the MCEE!

 

The QE1 is similar to EE but tougher, you will need more preparation and practice USMLE questions like USMLE world and Canada Qbank. For textbooks, Toronto notes and USMLE world CK and CS are very good, the CS will help with clinical decision making part of the exam.

 

Good luck

OM

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Greetings guys. Think I know the answer to this already but here goes... I'm a UK citizen and was born and brought up here, however I went to a med school in The Caribbean. We were taught in English but the patients spoke Spanish. Will I have to take the IELTS if I want to work as a doctor in Canada? Lol I had to take it when I came back to the UK!

 

cheers in advance.

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Hi Suki,

 

If you could please help with clarifying this doubt. What documents do I need to send to get my medical credentials source verified? Is it just the medical degree certificate or is there any thing else?

 

Should have done all this last year...but just got delayed.

 

Many thanks.

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Greetings guys. Think I know the answer to this already but here goes... I'm a UK citizen and was born and brought up here, however I went to a med school in The Caribbean. We were taught in English but the patients spoke Spanish. Will I have to take the IELTS if I want to work as a doctor in Canada? Lol I had to take it when I came back to the UK!

 

cheers in advance.

If you have postgraduate training in UK and has MRCPsych, you may not need it except some province like BC

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Hi Suki,

 

If you could please help with clarifying this doubt. What documents do I need to send to get my medical credentials source verified? Is it just the medical degree certificate or is there any thing else?

 

Should have done all this last year...but just got delayed.

 

Many thanks.

Hi Josh,

 

All undergraduates and postgraduates certificates and training documents needs to be verified.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Sukiyaki.

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Thanks again Suki.

 

Have registered with physicianapply.ca & completing the source verification request forms. I will be submitting the Medical degree document (MBBS), Medical school transcript, Internship, License/ Registration (GMC) & Passport document. I will getting my CCST in May 2014, so will not be able to submit the Postgraduate certificate or Specialty training certificate now.

 

Did you submit the MRCPsych certificate or any other document prior to taking the MCCEE?

 

Hope to take the MCCEE in May 2014.

 

Best wishes,

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Reviving an old thread

 

Hi All,

 

The wealth of information here is immense.

 

I need clarification on the need to write MCQE after the MCEE?

 

I thought the steps for psychiatrists was

 

1. Get 1 year internship and 48 months rotational experience

 

2. physiciansapply.ca for verification

 

3. apply to RSPC for eligibility

 

4. pass MCEE

 

5. get a job in a Canadian province

 

6. then pass the fellowship exams within 3/4 years

 

Where does MCQE 1 and 2 come in?

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Reviving an old thread

 

Hi All,

 

The wealth of information here is immense.

 

I need clarification on the need to write MCQE after the MCEE?

 

I thought the steps for psychiatrists was

 

1. Get 1 year internship and 48 months rotational experience

 

2. physiciansapply.ca for verification

 

3. apply to RSPC for eligibility

 

4. pass MCEE

 

5. get a job in a Canadian province

 

6. then pass the fellowship exams within 3/4 years

 

Where does MCQE 1 and 2 come in?

Your analysis is right on!

With regards to QE1&2 most provinces will want you to pass this before you get your full/independent/unrestricted licence.

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Your analysis is right on!

With regards to QE1&2 most provinces will want you to pass this before you get your full/independent/unrestricted licence.

 

 

That was a super quick response! Thanks Sukiyaki.

 

At what stage will you recommend writing the MCQE? 

 

Thats like 5 different exam papers in all !

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Your analysis is right on!

With regards to QE1&2 most provinces will want you to pass this before you get your full/independent/unrestricted licence.

 

That was a super quick response! Thanks Sukiyaki.

 

At what stage will you recommend writing the MCQE? 

 

Thats like 5 different exam papers in all !

That should be at your own pace, I wrote QE1 before moving to Canada and I did my fellowship within few months of practice over here. At the end of the day, it all depends on your stamina.

You can do it within a year or over 3yrs. The choice yours.

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Stamina ha. Think my wife took all that.

 

Just to be clear, without MCQE i cant get Fellowship?

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Stamina ha. Think my wife took all that.

 

Just to be clear, without MCQE i cant get Fellowship?

You need MCEE before writing fellowship , you only need QE1&2 to get full licence.

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Thats clearer now.

 

I'm going to be clocking 48 months psych rotational experience at the end of June 2014.

 

Can i start the physiciansapply.ca verification of documents bit now? Then sit & pass MCEE after. (before seeking eligibility).

Then apply to RSPC next Winter/Spring (basically before the April 30th deadline).

 

Or is it wiser to seek eligibility prior to attempting the MCEE.

 

I'm reading stuff online that some candidates might be asked to provide a HST Completion certificate! How true is this? 

 

 

 

Many thanks for taking out time to respond to my questions. 

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You can start the verification process but you will need MCEE before you can sit for the fellowship exam. You can visit the college website for the requirement for eligibility. HST is not a must.

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I hope there are still jobs left by the time i finish the long process ha.

 

Should be my last migration. 

 

Out of curiosity i wonder how double migration influences my risk of Schizophrenia or that of my future kids. 

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I hope there are still jobs left by the time i finish the long process ha.

 

Should be my last migration. 

 

Out of curiosity i wonder how double migration influences my risk of Schizophrenia or that of my future kids.

Lol, you will have to google for the answer.

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I want to sit for fellowship exam this year any ida of how to prepare and how difficult is it

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I sat the MCCEE's way back in 2010 and the hardest part was the 4 hours of thinking, sitting,  clicking and staring at a computer screen. I passed it the first time so was worth it  (I thought at the time!) until zip over to 2013 when my husband and I got a PM (Permanent Residency) visa to move to Canada and obtain the 5 year PM card.

 

In my research from July 2013-December 2013, I discovered that your best bet is to finish your MRCPsych training in the UK/Ireland and then get contacts to work in Ontario - Toronto is their Dublin or UK London. To further consolidate my findings, I conversed with a UK Professor who moved to Canada undeer 10 years ago. He highlighted that it would be wiser to avoid this north american land until you have all your eggs in your basket.  Too many people are ending up in deep waters, no real money returns, jobs and loss of dignity. This is a good talk to give you a indication of how bad the situation is there.....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPGkLDOSPmM

 

 

To study - all I used was pass questions with my Toronto notes next to me - quite frankly, hardly looked at the T notes because I found a good bank of questions online. (  http://www.canadaqbank.com/mccee.phpAND the one I used:  http://qbankformccee.com/?gclid=CMvutIujxMMCFcvJtAodeQwAiw - I got a DVD with questions, prevous Toronto Notes, Atlases all added) I shared them with another colleague who passed her exam first time round too! After that you are meant to do the MCCQEs (Qualifying exams 1 and 2). More information is on Canadian Medical Council website. http://mcc.ca/examinations/mccee/

 

If you do decide to move over right away, you need information about CARMS only IF you decide to go over to Canada before your Psych training is complete. You will probably need to start from scratch - as in all your post grad medical training followed by specialization. There is a 5 year vow you make which you are bound to if you go this route - the ROS or return of service. Remember this is only  if you are tempted to start all over and go before your training is complete. You end up in places like Yukon and Newfoundland for 5 years and ONLY then after 5 years training and 5 years ROS do you then have a hopeful chance of getting Consultancy.

 

Hope this is helpful to you.

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I hope there are still jobs left by the time i finish the long process ha.

 

Should be my last migration. 

 

Out of curiosity i wonder how double migration influences my risk of Schizophrenia or that of my future kids. 

The first migration predisposes to schiz, the next migration cancels out the prior predisposition... :D. So basically you're okay

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i know this post is about canada but does anybody know any info about working abroad in america?

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Im a bit confused.I have been working as a consultant for a year but not sure what the best way would be to get a specialist post in Ontario. I have been in touch with the college of physicians and surgeons Canada and its over 3000$ to apply for assessment of training to be eligible for registration.As a consultant do I still have to do MCCEE and both the MCCQE exams? 

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Everyone who hasn't trained in Canada or USA must do the MCCEE regardless. This is my understanding of the other requirements: MCCQE1 and 2 can be avoided but I understand that means you will only ever have limited registration and may be restricted from having residents working for you. Fellowship is required of all specialists but can be deferred. However you need to prove you are eligible for the exam, hence the $3000 assessment seems to be unavoidable unless the provincial colleges can find some exemption.

Puhktun is this similar to start you have heard/read?

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hi 

i might be very late

could you please advice me regarding Royal Canadian  college exam , I am currently working in UK, British national,  ,had core training and  one yr registrar exp.I did not  pass CASC, Wishing to sit for royal Canadian exam in order to get specialist registration so then can work in UK as consultant. How hard is Canadian royal college exam? as compared to MRCPSYH

thanks

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