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most strongly associated with infanticide

paternal suicide risk

maternal suicide risk

young mother

behavioural problems in other siblings

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most strongly associated with infanticide

paternal suicide risk

maternal suicide risk

young mother

behavioural problems in other siblings

dunno about young mothers ad behaviourla probs....

my understanding, a mother/father planning on killing themselves and before that killing their children ...?!??! makes more sence as an answer

what do you guys think ????

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young age of mother is more relevant in neonaticide than infanticide but still i would like to stick with the same aswer cos i dont think suicide related or altruistic infanticides are that common compared to infanticides not associated with suicide. :-?

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but then question is about strong association u might be right as well insane

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discussed with a forensic spr he thinks it will be young age of mother.

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okie dokie......not trying to be an*l here but did he/she say how or why ????

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same reason i said suicide infanticides are not very common. and young age of mother is a recognised risk factor more so for neonaticide than infanticide.

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Risk factors for the homicide of infants older than a day

Victims

• Younger infants more at risk

• Boys more at risk than girls

Perpetrators

• Family history of violence

• Violence in current relationships

• Evidence of past abuse or neglect of children

• Personality disorder and/or depression

Pospartum psychosis is a definite risk of neonaticide.

Again infanticides of older children are likely to be secondary to mental illness.

Neonaticides are commonly impulsive and accidental and more common in younger mothers.

In d’Orban’s study, 54% of the mothers who had been categorized as having killed their child as a direct consequence of mental illness

had a history of previous psychiatric illness requiring in- or out-patient treatment, 88% suffered from psychiatric symptoms prior to the offence. Two-thirds had attempted or contemplated suicide at the time of the offence. Usually the murder and suicides were simultaneous acts. In the majority, the conscious motive was primarily self-destruction, and the killing of the child was an extension of the suicide act. Less often was the killing due to some delusional idea.

d’Orban P. Women who kill their children. Br J Psychiatry 1979; 134: 560–71.

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so the answer

is young age of mother or

maternal suicide risk ?

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i guess its young mother.....but........

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I would think... neonaticide - young mother

Infanticide - would be suicidal ideation / mental illness.

Does that make sense???

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Neonaticide

Neonaticide refers to infant homicides which occur within 24 hours of delivery. The characteristics and causes of neonaticide are very different from those of the homicide of infants older than a day. For most neonaticides the mother is the perpetrator. Paternal neonaticide is rare and usually linked to the father having a severe psychiatric disorder. Neonaticidal mothers are more likely than mothers who kill older infants to be young (under 20 years of age), single, and still living at home with parents. The pregnancies are often their first, unintentional, and concealed. The motivation to kill is usually because the child was unwanted and the infant’s death is more likely to have resulted from inaction rather than the violent action which often characterizes the killing of older infants. Boys and girls are equally likely to be killed. Mothers who kill their neonates are treated comparatively leniently by the legal system in the UK. Most mothers who kill their neonate are never indicted, and those who are usually receive infanticide convictions.

Characteristics of neonaticidal mother

Neonaticidal mothers are rarely mentally ill.4 However, the pregnancy

and delivery of neonaticidal mothers frequently involves denial, dissociation and ego disorganization. The woman may ‘know’ she is pregnant but to all intents and purposes behave as if she were not; or she may not acknowledge even to herself that she is pregnant. In either case, she usually does not seek medical help and makes no preparation for the delivery. After the child is born and disposed of the mother returns immediately to her normal daily life.

The denial in these concealed pregnancies is sometimes so powerful

that it seems also to influence the perceptions of other peopleas well as the pregnant woman. This may be related to the fact that the biological manifestations of pregnancy sometimes become attenuated; for example, there may be reduced change in body contour, continuation of menstrual bleeding during pregnancy and no complaints of pregnancy such as nausea or increased urinary frequency.

The labours are often fast, the woman thinks she has colic or menstrual pain, may interpret the contractions as a need to defecate,

and the delivery itself as a bowel movement. The arrival of the baby is thus often experienced as a traumatic shock and in an ego-disorganized or dissociated state the woman kills the child or leaves it to die.

The over-representation of naive young women in studies of neonaticide may be in part a consequence of their naivety. It is likely that more mature, worldly women are better able to successfully

conceal an unwanted pregnancy and dispose of the newly delivered infant in such a way that it remains undiscovered.

Risk factors for infanticide over iday - i have posted in an early post from the same article

Ref: Marks M. Infanticide. Psychiatry. Volume 5, Issue 1, 1 January 2006, Pages 13-15

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